The 850-pound woman in Texas who decided to have gastric bypass surgery? Died last night of a massive heart attack, almost two weeks after the surgery. Turns out the risks are much greater for people whose body mass index is over 60, and hers was 137.5....

From: [identity profile] erica-roo.livejournal.com


Not to be rude, but... How in the name of all that is holy does someone reach 850 pounds at the age of 29?! Ok... I'm done.

From: [identity profile] sigma7.livejournal.com


The first story answers a few questions -- heredity, married at 15, had kids, hit by drunk driver and bedridden.... But it's pretty depressing reading, even without retrospect.

From: [identity profile] gloomchen.livejournal.com


This isn't the first time I've heard of someone dying after going against common sense and doctor's orders and having gastric bypass done when clearly they were NOT a proper surgical candidate for such. I think so many people see it as an easy fix without realizing just how much of a shock to the system and what a major surgery it truly is. In her case, you'd be taking someone who needs 7000 calories a day just for her body to function, and putting her in a state where she's physically unable to take in more than 2000 (and that's pushing it). Whoever performed that surgery shouldn't be allowed to practice medicine.

As for what led up to her landing in this condition in the first place, I'm not going to say a word except that I have heredity working STRONGLY against me and I hate that excuse with a passion.

From: [identity profile] sigma7.livejournal.com


And you've done nothing less than a fantastic job in your self-improvement, too. I can't imagine the amount of work and discipline involved. You've been a primary source of inspiration when I try to burn off the weight I picked up post-heart-meds....

And while there's no part of this story that isn't depressing, I've decided, she had to know the risks going in, and she had to have accepted them. Sometimes the dice aren't kind.

From: [identity profile] gloomchen.livejournal.com


It is a sad story, if nothing else because of the state the world is in now where obese people don't believe in their own ability to change themselves for the better. Believe me, I know, it's an endless self-destructive cycle that I went through for YEARS. It's really easy for me to see someone grossly overweight who sees these surgeries and honestly thinks there's no other way that they will ever be able to lose the weight because they can't do it themselves... that they have failed to the point where they're as obese as they are, so how could they not fail again? That's the saddest part of all, really, when the self-loathing and despair overtakes any belief that they could succeed.

You might say that she had to know the risks going in. This brings up the story of someone on LJ that I knew through someone else. This guy was 350+ pounds and DESPERATE to have gastric bypass. I don't know what efforts he'd made before that point, but he wanted the surgery more than anything. I think he was about 27 years old. But he was already having issues with his heart, and his doctor told him it would be far too risky to undergo the procedure. He insisted that they're his risks to take, and still his doctor wouldn't budge. He went to another doctor who said the same thing. Finally he went to a doctor who either didn't find the heart issue or sugarcoated the impact it would have, and he performed the surgery. I think it was two months afterward, when 60+ pounds had poured off, that he had heart complications and died. I mean, two doctors told him that the risks were too high, but he truly believed in his mind that this was the ONLY WAY he could ever lose weight and be happy. That's beyond tragic.

A lot of people do fail at the old diet-and-exercise routine. And you know, a lot of it is personality. Some people need someone there to hold their hand every step of the way, to feed them properly, to take them out walking, and to not allow temptation to even come NEAR. Obviously not everyone can find someone to do that for them, so what's the solution? Counseling can only do so much. And you can't MAKE someone build a strong sense of determination that would help them better themselves if they don't feel that kind of strength inside. It's very, VERY hard to shake feelings of failure; look at people who lose maybe 10 pounds, eat a candy bar, and then beat themselves up over it saying they have no willpower and give up entirely.

But above all, I think so many overweight people fail to understand that losing the weight will not make them happy. Gastric bypass might be successful for them, but their mindset doesn't change with surgery. And when the primary reason why they couldn't lose the weight was mental, where does that leave them afterwards? I say it a lot: I'll always be a fat girl inside, because that's how I grew up and developed and how the majority of my life was lived. You might not be pummeling your self-esteem any longer, but there are years of bruises and scars that take a long, long time to heal. No surgery will ever fix that.
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From: [identity profile] norabombay.livejournal.com


Personally, I got to the point where I could scream this morning- the today show had a woman who weighed 500 lbs, and had just hd a 94 lb ovarian cyst removed. She'd been going to doctors for 7 or 8 years, and every single one of them sent her home with instructions to loose weight.

Because obviously poor diet will cure a 94 lb tumor.

That was bad enough malpractice- it was only lucky that was a very determined woman, convinced something was wrong.

What killed me? Was that then they asked her if she was going to lose the rest of the weight now.

I wanted to beat the crap out of the morning show hosts on her behalf. I know exactly how much work it took to drop from 300 to 240, and how much exercise and little food it is taking to maintain where I am.

The idea that the moral to take away was that she should loose more weight just killed me. Grrr.

From: [identity profile] gloomchen.livejournal.com


A 94 POUND TUMOR.

...

That's just nutty.

I'd say it's probably easier to lose weight for the woman now that she's not carrying around a 94 POUND TUMOR but yeah, that wouldn't be the first question I'd ask the woman. That's an ordeal right there, never mind tackling weight loss. Although in the doctors' defense, soft tissue exams of any type are REALLY difficult to perform on someone that large. Still, that she kept coming back with symptomatology, that's just ridiculous that it took that long to get someone to hunt down the issue.

At least she kept going and insisting that something was wrong. Most people would hear the "lose weight" thing even just ONCE and not go back. Grossly overweight people KNOW that they're overweight. I know many people who hate being nagged by their doctor about their weight that they avoid the doctor at all costs.

And 60 pounds is tremendous, kudos :)

From: [identity profile] blemt.livejournal.com


You know, you are touching on something that was discussed a lot at the event I was at this weekend. Making the mental shift from fat person to skinny person is not easy. Everything changes.

How people relate to you, what they say, what they expect, all change. I mean the first time I stopped a car in traffic and got a "hey baby" was by turns amazing and scary as hell. It's worse when you've never been skinny and never thought of yourself as attractive.

It's hard work, and it's something I work on daily. The nice thing is that with time as my confidence grows it's a bit easier to stay out of "fat head" mode. Little steps at a time move me forward. But it's never going to be gone.

Congrats on what sounds like a great job over time. :)

From: [identity profile] dvandom.livejournal.com


I got an honest "I didn't recognize you at first" today from someone I haven't seen since last summer. "I wondered who that was in Dave's office," he said.

From: [identity profile] blemt.livejournal.com


Oh that is so cool! I still get lost periodically when I go out with friends. I'm not as big as they expect. :)

And serious congrats. That's awesome.
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