Yeah, I'd read the Bad Astronomy one. And some stuff, like "Red Matter" I can forgive as plot device necessity. But some stuff was just sheer lazyness, not wanting to find a better way or at least come up with consistent behavior. I know Trek gets dinged for technobabble, which is valid, but it's also a part of the franchise.
The chase scene was just a wasted opportunity. Show some of that Kirk-vs-Gorn ingenuity and have him kill the big one, then have Spock chase off the smaller one who's circled back around or something. Instead it could have been written as "Kirk gets chased into cave by monster which is driven off by old man with torch. SFX: Go nuts" ILM didn't even go that nuts; they just recycled the big monster gets eaten by bigger monster gag from Phantom Menace.
Nimoy's first appearance was just flat. That wasn't SpockPrime suppressing his emotions like in the original series, or openly struggling with the confilcts like Trek 1 3 and 4, or at peace with his dual nature in the other ones. That was Nimoy reading cue cards. If it was an attempt to do that later version of SpockPrime clamping down, it was a mistake--there's no example of that in his other appearances to give the fans (or even Nimoy) reference points for the portrayal, and he's not on screen long enough for us to understand it. The later scenes were a familiar version of Spock, though it may have been helped by Nimoy having done the same basic speech in a couple scenes with Savvik.
As for what he does now, I think he concentrates on curing whatever that is his father had/will get.
Urban...felt more like a SNL Trek skit than a major movie performance. It was a good imitation, but he didn't make the part his like the other actors did.
I sound more down on the movie than I really am. I just look at all the missed opportunities and wonder what it could have been.
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Date: 2009-05-26 09:17 pm (UTC)The chase scene was just a wasted opportunity. Show some of that Kirk-vs-Gorn ingenuity and have him kill the big one, then have Spock chase off the smaller one who's circled back around or something. Instead it could have been written as "Kirk gets chased into cave by monster which is driven off by old man with torch. SFX: Go nuts" ILM didn't even go that nuts; they just recycled the big monster gets eaten by bigger monster gag from Phantom Menace.
Nimoy's first appearance was just flat. That wasn't SpockPrime suppressing his emotions like in the original series, or openly struggling with the confilcts like Trek 1 3 and 4, or at peace with his dual nature in the other ones. That was Nimoy reading cue cards. If it was an attempt to do that later version of SpockPrime clamping down, it was a mistake--there's no example of that in his other appearances to give the fans (or even Nimoy) reference points for the portrayal, and he's not on screen long enough for us to understand it. The later scenes were a familiar version of Spock, though it may have been helped by Nimoy having done the same basic speech in a couple scenes with Savvik.
As for what he does now, I think he concentrates on curing whatever that is his father had/will get.
Urban...felt more like a SNL Trek skit than a major movie performance. It was a good imitation, but he didn't make the part his like the other actors did.
I sound more down on the movie than I really am. I just look at all the missed opportunities and wonder what it could have been.