"Intelligent design" cannot be mentioned in biology classes in a Pennsylvania public school district, a federal judge said Tuesday, ruling in one of the biggest courtroom clashes on evolution since the 1925 Scopes trial.

Won't someone think of the vermicelli?

From: [identity profile] ember-burn.livejournal.com

Balance


Can't we just get a little bit of balance here? WTF?

It would be amazing if we could simply acknowledge that there are LOTS of different scientific and non-scientific ways of looking at creation. Scientific theories are proven and disproven all the time; I don't think it hurts to tell children that there are many theories and let them decide for themselves. I do think that public schools should spend more time on the more scientific theories since it is a 'science' class though and 'science' should be about hard facts rather than abstracts. Abstracts have their place in other arenas.

It would be so nice if we could discuss religion as it relates to the structure of society as we know it. I'm not a member of any organized religion, but most of the big religions have a profound impact on how society is organized. The difficult part would be balancing what is taught, but then - there is currently not a great balance in teaching. I think about how the history textbooks are set up and it makes me want to cry. I'd like to get back into teaching history eventually, and I think about how impossible it would be to talk about even the founding of the US without discussion religious aspects that influenced various parties.

Okay, I'm done ranting for now...

From: [personal profile] beeform

Re: Balance


And I should probably state for the record that I'm a "Creationist" (*ducks to avoid stoning*) who still expects actual science to be taught in classrooms.

Mixing science and faith-based religious beliefs is NOT a good idea.

From: [identity profile] ember-burn.livejournal.com

Re: Balance


Lol... No stoning from this direction...

My dad was a Methodist minister for a few years before he passed away. I was very devout back then. Now, there are too many ideas that don't make sense for me in any specific religion.

Religion has been a BIG issue lately for C. and me because we're working on having children. A HUGE part of who we are today is based on the fact that both of us had church as a part of our lives and we have fond memories of activities like summer Bible school and church camp. However, since we don't believe in any single religion anymore, providing those types of experiences for our children becomes problematic. We've talked about going to many churches, synagogs, etc. instead of trying to find just one to belong to. That way our children will be exposed to many ideas. The main concern with that is that we don't confuse them.

I LOVE when anyone has faith. I only object when people tell me that I'm WRONG and that I'm going to hell or wherever for not believing what they believe.

From: [identity profile] robing.livejournal.com


Perhaps this will please him? I'm kinda divided on the whole intelligent design vs. evolution thing. I can recall discussing with my evolution professor the odds involved in the evolution of the eyeball. As I recall it, his basic explanation was "Well, over enough time, with enough organisms, small changes accumulated". You know, monkeys, typewriters, Shakespeare, that sorta thing. Although, if you put the monkeys in front of a computer, the results are less than good. I think those monkeys are trying to tell us something.
While it is a little hard for the human mind to comprehend the evolution of say, eyeballs, there is hard scientific evidence out there to see how the process most likely occurred.
I believe fully in evolution. However, I don't believe evolution is mutually exclusive to the existence of an underlying intelligence to the universe. Having said that, the whackos who make "evolution is a theory, not a fact" their mantra need to go back to middle school and take basic science over again.

From: [identity profile] kateshort.livejournal.com


/me iz *ded*

OMG, you need to send that to You Knit What.
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